Well, not the entire car, but apparently enough of the essential wiring to kill the battery and various other essential engine components. Apparently an industrious set of mice made a nest in the engine compartment of my Audi TT while I was on vacation and proceeded to chew through some of the wiring and miscellaneous insulation. If I had known that cheese-flavored wiring would have brought about this mishap, I would never have selected that option when I purchased the car. Who knew?
When I started the car on December 27 after over a week of no operation while I was away on vacation, the Check Engine light came on and stayed on. Otherwise, though, the car showed no indication of a problem. On the advice of the Audi service department at the dealership, I made an appointment for January 13 and continued to drive it.
On January 4, the engine hunted for idle by jumping from 500 to 1500 rpm once per second, so I didn’t drive it to work. When I tried to start it that evening, the battery was dead. The next day I had it towed in to the dealership, assuming the warranty would cover whatever the problem might be.
After charging the battery, one of the junior service techs plugged it into a diagnostic computer and determined that the problem was more complex than what he had been trained to handle. When the head tech finally looked at it Friday afternoon, he found a mice nest in the engine compartment. When I last talked to him, he hadn’t investigated enough to determine if there were still mice in it.
Though Acts of Small Rodents are not covered by the otherwise extensive Audi 4-year warranty, the comprehensive part of my auto insurance covered it, so I should be out only the $250 deductible. Well, that and at least a week without my car. The State Farm insurance claims rep whom I spoke with was very helpful and sympathetic. He said he couldn’t believe it when he got his first case like this one. After about the hundredth one he’s seen come through their regional office, though, it became fairly routine.
Without the benefits of a CSI investigator and DNA testing, I probably won’t be able to identify the source of the rodent. There is a big field next to the parking lot at work, and I park about fifty feet from the field. I have seen a rabbit, a cat, and a mouse in that field (obviously, not at the same time having afternoon tea). Assuming he/she/they could survive the 20 minute drive home, I could well have brought home my car’s nemesis. Of course, the damage might have been completed in a single day’s work while my car was parked at the office.
However, I suspect the damage was done in my garage, since I found some shredded insulation and plastic on the floor below where the engine would normally be. I also found a couple rodent turds. The size and shape indicates a house mouse. While all this stuff could have been transported home before falling off the engine in the garage, it’s more likely that these artifacts were created there during the attack.
You might be wondering, “but what about those giant cats of yours that you write about“? Either they aren’t natural mousers or I haven’t been letting them go into the garage often enough. The cats go down there for about an hour every evening, but the mice probably hear them bounding down the stairs, thus allowing them plenty of time to scurry for cover before the lads can score a dessert.
Update 3/5/2005: Read the exciting conclusion to my tale of woe and lamentation! See if you guess how many thousands of dollars my insurance company paid to have my car fixed. I can almost guarantee your guess will be too low!
Update 5/13/2007:Last week I received some info on rodent control and cleanup from the Alameda County Vector Control Services Department as part of a ballot for increasing their funding. Obviously, I voted for increasing their funding.
The tips for preventing infestation were fairly obvious:
- Seal up holes inside and outside the home to keep rodents out
- Trap rodents around the home to help reduce the population
The info on cleaning up after an infestation was more detailed.
Before cleaning a space, ventilate the area by opening the doors and windows for at least 30 minutes to allow fresh air to enter the area and to remove potentially contaminated air from the area. Use cross-ventilation and leave the area during the airing-out period.
When you begin cleaning, it is important that you do not stir up dust by sweeping or vacuuming droppings, urine, or nesting materials.
- Wear rubber, latex, or vinyl gloves.
- Wear a respiratory protection device such as an approved half-faced mask
- Spray the urine and droppings with a disinfectant and let soak 5 minutes.
- Use a paper towel to pick up the urine and droppings, and dispose of the waste in the garbage
- Clean and disinfect the whole area.
- Remove gloves, and thoroughly wash hands with soap and water.
And here’s a tip for finding out how they get in to your car and where they go. Sprinkle baby powder where ever you think a mouse might walk, then check for paw prints in the morning. Also, if you find a hole that they are coming through, then depending on the surface and the visibility of the hole (i.e., do you care if people see the patch job), steel wool is very good for flexibly patching a hole so a mouse can’t come through.
Update 10/27/2007: A post on Boing Boing titled “Clever non-lethal mousetraps” includes a photo of a scaled down version of a mouse trap described by one of the commenters below. As several of the commenters wrote, the glass in the picture is much too small to prevent a mouse from jumping out. The most useful info in that Boing Boing post is in the comments, so I recommend browsing through all of them.
References: Is There a Mouse in Your House?, How to Get Rid of Mice, Control of Mice.
January 10th, 2005 at 2:29 pm
The line about the “giant cats” cracked me up. Strangely, this scenario sounds familiar - it must have happened to someone else I know recently (although I can’t recall the details). Thanks for sharing!
January 15th, 2005 at 11:50 am
I am having a similar problem where the mice are getting into the cabin of my Honda Pilot. I have captured five so far. I became aware of the problem when I found mouse droppings on the kids car seats and cup holders. The dealer said that it is a common problem “all makes, all models”. I am glad to hear that the insurance covered the problem. The dealer suggests keeping the AC/heat on re-circulate to possibly keep the mice from getting in through the air vents.
January 20th, 2005 at 5:59 pm
Any suggestions on how to stop them from hanging out in my car? I just got a call from my dealership after bringing in my car this morning because the engine light was on and my gas gauge stopped working. I thought it was under warranty, but mice don’t fall under the warranty. The mice in my car are living on top of my gas tank. I have 2 cats, so I don’t want to use decon, but I can’t keep taking it to the dealership, and my car is now stinky because they’ve left rotten food on the gas tank. Any suggestions?
January 21st, 2005 at 12:17 am
Two words. Snap traps.
We get a lot of deer mice at our cabin. Snap traps work great. Bait them with a little bit of peanut butter and set them along a path you think the mice might follow. Mice tend to stay close to walls as they move around a room.
The cheap snap traps with a flat piece of wood as a base work well. I just bought some plastic ones that are easier to set, but they don’t snap as fast and don’t appear to be very strong. I think a mouse could wiggle out of one. The cheaper wood ones are lot more powerful, but it can be a little nerve racking to set them (think of a Jack-in-the-box or the kid’s game Operation, but with a much louder sound and potentially some peanut butter getting tossed across the floor).
You can also try the boxes with bait, but you have to make sure your cats can’t get to them. The bait dehydrates the mice. That way, if they die in the walls of your house or inside your car, they won’t smell bad.
Glue strips supposedly work well, but they seem a little barbaric. Also, I’m not sure I want to come home to find a starving, half dead mouse on a glue strip. The snap traps seem to bring about a far quicker death. I’ve only had one instance where it looked like the mouse wasn’t killed immediately.
August 25th, 2005 at 8:43 am
I too am having a problem with Mice and my brand new Honda Pilot. Seems as they like the HVAC duct, and have decided to make it home. I also have two cats, so no poison allowed. As far as the snap traps….where do you put them? I read somewhere that moth balls would deter them as well. I put moth balls in a stocking and hung them in my engine compartment yesterday. The car smells a little on the outside, but as of yet…not on the inside. I hope this works as I am at my wits AND my checkbook end!!
August 31st, 2005 at 12:40 am
I read that mice usually stay close to walls and that they prefer being concealed. In my garage, I have some metal and wood racks near a wall that they could easily move along on, while staying out of sight of me and, possibly even, my cats. So, I baited the snap traps with peanut butter and pushed them against the wall so the baited part is as close to the wall as possible.
I know that PB makes good bait, because we often get mice in our cabin at Tahoe. They seem to love the stuff. Another advantage is that PB won’t smell bad after sitting out, the way cheese sometimes does.
A friend told me that he had seen a website recommending moth balls. I haven’t tried that, yet.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, I haven’t caught any mice in my garage, yet. I believe that after the big December rains ended, they may have gone back to the underground tunnels. Of course, that will probably happen again this winter, so I have to be prepared.
One thing I did do was make sure every access to my garage was well sealed. The previous owner had cut a hole in a crawl space door so he could run an extension cord into the crawl space. I made sure to patch that. I’ve read that an adult mouse can go through a hole as small as a quarter.
Also, I had been storing bird seed in my garage. I found of chewed up seeds in the box and one of the corners of the box had been gnawed on. I don’t store any kind of food in the garage anymore, other than the baited snap traps.
November 28th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
have gotten mice in my honda element, left dog food in the bag in rear, never thought of mice and now they are in the front and back of the car. A gentlemen at the hardware store told me to put bounce on the motor and tail pipe that mice do not like the smell of bounce so now my car smells like new laundry but if it works i am pleased and now putting the dog food in a metal garbage can with lid so they can not chew hope can get rid of mice in car
December 3rd, 2005 at 3:36 pm
My 2004 Honda Pilot has been damaged by rodents 4 timess: once they ate the fuel line (very dangerous) and also have 3 times eaten the knock sensor wire which also controls the 4WD system. Pilots seems very vulnerable to rodent damage. I have requested Honda to address the problem without luck. I would be interested in contacting others who have this problem.
Paul Paryski, Santa Fe, NM
December 4th, 2005 at 12:15 am
Paul, if anyone contacts me directly or posts a related comment here about mice getting into a Honda Pilot, I’ll let you know.
December 20th, 2005 at 9:56 am
I to have just spent $500.00 because of mice in my car engine. I do not have a garage and live close to a hilly area. I would appreciate any ideas on how to keep them out.
January 6th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
my 2003 Honda pilot also has been infested by mice. they made a nest in the heating duct/blower area(the heat wasn’t working) The dealership cleaned it out and cleared all the heat vents. Their theory was I had kid crumbs in my car that enticed the mice. Had it detailed and have kept it food free but have now found evidence of them being in the cabin again. I would like to know how many other Pilots have this issue, does anyone know?
January 7th, 2006 at 10:52 am
I have a mouse problem in my Explorer. We live in the Cascade foothills outside of Portland OR, and there are tons of mice. I get them regularly, my husband never gets them, he has a Voyageur van. I usually get rid of them before they do much damage, but it’s a constant battle. Looking for any help….
January 10th, 2006 at 2:42 pm
2005 Honda Pilot. Mice chewed through knock sensor wiring harness. $300 to repair. A friend with an Odessey just got a $600 bill for rodent damage. I’m worried it may happen again. Seems to be more prevelent in Honda/Acura than other makes. Honda should reroute this wire elsewhere in engine or encase it in some sort of metal(with barbs)instead of plastic. BTW I read that someone with a similar issue was told by their dealer that the wiring harness was made of a soy-based plastic product. This can’t be true- can it? Is this a conspiracy to keep the Honda Service Depts profitable?
January 10th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
Wow, misery does love company. I never expected to get so many comments on this post. Sorry to hear about everyone else’s troubles. If you have comprehensive coverage with a relatively low deductible on your insurance, you may want to make a claim. State Farm covered the cost for my car, despite the fact that the final bill was insanely large.
If you have a garage, make sure that any ventilation holes are no bigger than a dime. An adult mouse can get through something not much larger than that. I suspect a hole in a door to the crawl space under my house to have been the gateway. The previous owner had cut out the hole so he could run an extension cord under the house.
Also, don’t store food of any kind in your garage, near your cars, or especially in your cars. Mice and rats will eat much of what we eat, plus more, e.g., flower bulbs.
Other than that, all I can recommend are snap traps and catch-and-release traps.
January 11th, 2006 at 9:06 am
Toyota dealer is telling me I have a mouse problem in my new 4Runner! Other cars in garage have never had a problem in 8 years. I was told to try moth balls in a plastic baggie with holes in it.
Also to mouse proof the garage, you might try a Rat Zapper 2000. I’ve ordered one, and I hear they work great.
January 11th, 2006 at 11:03 am
this morning my wife took her ‘97 saturn to dealership due to check engine light staying on - rodents had chewed through a lot of the wiring & built nests. will cost about $1200-1600. our cars stay outside all the time - no garage. i decided to check my ford explorer and found a nest on top of the air filter. it’s like we’ve been invaded. we live way out in country in oregon and never had this problem b4. that’s how i found your website - looking for a solution to the problem. i guess pb snap traps are a good start. if anyone has a better idea i’d sure like to hear it . thanks & good luck to all.
January 11th, 2006 at 9:45 pm
Just returned from the dealer tonight to find out something (probably mice), has chewed my second wiring harness in a three week period. I have tried mouse traps, live traps, and decon to no avail. Both times they chewed through the wiring harness to my knock sensor. I love my Honda Pilot but apparently not as much as something else. Have lived in my home w/garage for 8 years and never had a problem until I owned a Pilot. I Will try moth balls, bounce and traps under my hood if needed as they are much cheaper than my $500 trips to the dealer. I wish you all luck.
January 16th, 2006 at 1:04 pm
I have set snap traps in my VW Beetle Convertible.
I will now go and buy Bounce because I see more mouse droppings! I will also see if they are getting in air ducts. Thanks for the tips!
January 30th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
Well, my check engine lite came on and I took my 2005 Beetle Convertible to the Dealer and got the starngest call in the world about something eating my wires and hoses !!! I am going to try it ALL as far as suggestions and now that I have converted my garage to an enclosed gym, I cannot just pull inside. There are railroad ties right by my driveway so I suspect the little stinkers are in there staking out my car at night !! I am on my way to Ace Hardware to fight the war !!
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:46 am
I, too have rodent(s) living in my Dodge Grand Caravan Minivan. I thought they were just coming in to forage for food at night (I also have two kids with lots of spilled food crumbs) but today as I was driving my baby back home after dropping off my preschooler from school, I heard the distinct chewing sound of a rodent by my ear! They’re up inside the roof lining!
I laid two more traps (the first went untouched) with raisins and peanutbutter and waited inside the safety of my house…. I just went to check on the traps and they had licked the peanut buter off without springing a trap! To add insult to injury, they left a little note thanking me of the mid-morning snack (not really but it sure felt that way) I guess I’ll have to try the sticky glue traps ( can’t stand the thought of them crawling over my daughter and son’s car seat in search of morsels!
February 2nd, 2006 at 4:00 pm
I live in rural Iowa and have the same experience with mice. For every oil change I perform on my 2002 Chevy Prizm, I need to purchase a brand new airfilter. I drive 100+ miles per day so we’re looking at a new airfilter once a month. This is getting ridiculous. I need to know where I should place the mothballs and if they need to be enclosed in pantyhose, or just placed in the air filter housing. Please advise!!
February 5th, 2006 at 6:27 am
Well, the glue traps worked, at least so far. That mouse was a big one, well fed, I guess! My husband and I marvelled at how that thing sprang not one but two of the regular traps without getting caught, but then became ensnared in the glue trap. I can only immagine the chaos as both traps sprang and then as it ran away from them, it got stuck in the glue. I know I shouldn’t take such joy in this, I’m just glad I won’t hear it again in my car. I’m hoping it was the only one. PLan on taking the car to get detailed to get rid of all the crumbs that might encourage others to take up residence.
I’ll keep you all posted.
February 14th, 2006 at 11:15 am
I have the same mouse problem in my Honda Accord. I am going to try the bounce sheets. I tried the peppermint oil, but it didn’t last long. The darn things chewed a hole through my rear seat under my daughters car seat! Not happy!
February 21st, 2006 at 9:25 pm
I have a 2003 Honda Pilot and did have problems with mice getting in the a/c blower and building nests. They also ate some of the netting in back of the passenger seat. I took the car to my local mechanic and they installed a wire mesh to cover the openings that the mice used to get into the car. That solved my problem but it cost me about $600. Honda didn’t have any suggestions for me when I took it in there the first time I had the problem. I live in the country so mice are a big problem. I have never had problems with my Ford E350 Club Wagon vans though…
February 27th, 2006 at 1:20 pm
I thought I was all alone with the mice problem! The mechanic has lost interest in the problem except to say that the mice need to be kept away from the car (duh!). I was going to go up the chain of Honda to see what they say, but you all have tried that right? I have installed 2 new harnesses in the last 12 months and the engine light is on again! Put down sticky pads, but just caught birds, of all things. Didn’t like that! Keep no food in car. They seem to bein the engine compartment. Tried mothballs, but that didn’t work. Will try the Bounce trick. Cars that sit right next to mine, aren’t affected. Why? Help Honda, Help!
March 2nd, 2006 at 1:28 pm
My 2003 Honda CRV has a mouse. Thank goodness my toddler didn’t see it running around the car this morning. I left 4 sticky traps in it with peanut butter cups while at work to see if that does the trick. Doesn’t look like there is anything under the hood though. Will try the Bounce sheets tonight after a good vaccuuming!
March 4th, 2006 at 6:24 am
Oh my Gosh, I’m so glad to have found this site. I was cruising around and my check engine light flashed on. No biggie, I’m under warranty. Boy, was I in for some sticker shock. $425 to change out a wire, because they have to remove the intake. I’m a broke student…I was up this late searching for some ways to prevent this from happening again. I guess Honda’s are yummy. I have an 05 accord coupe.
The best I can come up with is to put one of those sonic pest controllers near/under your car. I don’t want this to ever happen again.
If anyone finds something out there that works, please post.
March 6th, 2006 at 10:02 pm
I have 3 cars, park them all in the same area and the 2003 Honda Pilot is the only one the mice get in. So far there is no damage. I am going to take these comments to my Honda dealer. I don’t even want to drive this vehicle anymore.
March 8th, 2006 at 10:25 am
well i seem to have the same problem as most of the other people. i live suronded by woods, and have no garage to keep my car in, so i consently have mice in my car, eating away at wires, clugging up my air vents and so much more, hundreds of dollars of damage and repaires! please help?????
March 11th, 2006 at 8:24 pm
I just found out that I have mice in my 2005 Pilot and 1991 Accord. Both were parked in the garage…after telling the next door neighbours who also have a 2005 Pilot, we checked theirs and sure enough we found mice droppings in there as well. VERY FRUSTRATING!!!! Filthy rodents! Honda needs to do something about this obvious fault with their vehicles.
March 14th, 2006 at 11:34 am
Well I just got back from the Honda Dealer and was told that my 2003 Honda Odyssey has mice. It appears that they have chewed through knock sensor and wiring harness and it is going to be a minimum or 265.00. The dealer also told me that Honda had put out a national news letter about this same problem and what to look for. Has anyone else heard about this?? If so it would have been nice to know before hand…..
March 30th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
Wow!!! didn’t know there was such a site! I just got off the phone with my mechanic who told me mice have eaten my 2 week old spark plug wires. I have a Toyota RAV4. I took my car in this morning and it was fine. They pulled it in the shop at 9:00 and the check engine light was on. My mechanic just called…the wires they put on last week were soy based plastic. They are now being replaced with silicone based rubber. Thanks for the info. Good luck everyone!
April 1st, 2006 at 2:50 pm
I guess I’m not the only one with mice problems…but I think I have a different problem than others. I have a Chevy Corvette which I store for the winter. The mice have tore out a bunch of insulation and the smell of urine is unreal. I was wondering if anyone knows how to get rid of that smell without having to replace all the carpets in the car. It’s as if someone took a bucket of amonia and poured it all over. Any sugestions?
P.S. I heard moth balls do keep mice away. I will surely be trying it.
April 5th, 2006 at 9:02 pm
Mouse problems, yes i have had them for a while in my 85 VW. About 6 yrs now. Disgusting. I just spent about 300 bucks for getting my dash taken out as there were maggots!!! yes i smelled the nastiness and knew it was a mouse or mice. And I took it to the shop and well, they didn’t want to discuss what they found but they did say they took care of it. I am sure they must have found some well, you know… I have tried those poison blocks to no avail. they just come into your car and will die and they will definately stink. I just tried peppermint oil, someone recommended that today. I will let u know how it works out. Currently I am continuously lysoling my vehicle to prevent any sickness and also washing my car seat covers regularly.
April 5th, 2006 at 11:11 pm
> I was wondering if anyone knows how to get rid of that
> smell without having to replace all the carpets in the
> car. It�s as if someone took a bucket of ammonia and
> poured it all over. Any sugestions?
I’ve read that white vinegar, when used with a carpet shampooing machine, helps neutralize the ammonia from the urine stains. That may be a bit tricky in a car, though. An easier option is to use a mix of baking soda and corn starch. Leave it on overnight and then vacuum it up.
The smell is caused by bacterial decomposition of urea, which is partially composed of ammonia. For older stains, you probablyy need to go with an enzyme or bacteria based product that will break the remaining urea into less pungent compounds. I’d suggest trying products that are advertised to treat cat urine. Hopefully you can find something reasonably priced at a pet store.
April 6th, 2006 at 7:37 pm
TO ROBERT: maybe you can possibly double check your vents again. And maybe check under where you have your gear shifter. Some folks forget to clean under there by taking it apart. Then maybe you should try getting a good shampoo on a sunny day . air it out. and lysol your car to the max after drying. you may need to get your car shampooed twice and then lysol.
April 12th, 2006 at 9:50 am
I have a 2004 Jeep Liberty and I guess the wiring in those tastes pretty good too……….my car is at the dealer now because my sun roof wont close. I was told about using Bounce too
April 13th, 2006 at 8:44 pm
Hey! so I sprinkled peppermint oil all over my car.. o my it sure smells like a candy cane. ok with me. And NO MICE YET!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW.
I noticed they went into the engine but not inside the vehicle! It may actually be working!
April 17th, 2006 at 12:46 am
[...] The winter of 2004-2005 brought a deluge of rain to the Bay area. Heavy rains will cause underground mice tunnels to flood and collapse. While I was away on vacation for about 9 days during the heavy rains that winter, some of the neighborhood mice decided to take up residence in the engine compartment of my car. Read the story, stay for the 35+ comments. [...]
April 20th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Peppermint oil…I would put some in your engine compartment also. I don’t know if your car has soy based wiring like mine but some squirrels find it tasty. It shouldn’t be a problem too much now that the weather is warming up and the rodents no longer need to rely on an engine block for warmth.
April 23rd, 2006 at 2:01 pm
I’m getting ready to pull the entire interior of my 92 Toyota Previa out. I have 4 separate nesting holes in the headliner, where among the ‘GALLONS’ of nesting material, there are literally millions upon millions of tiny seeds, which have worked their way now, to the sides of the ceiling, and are falling down behind the side paneling, and collecting behind the bottom panels, these seeds are falling out of every possible crack or seam of the interior panels, so the entire interior has to come out. It stinks. I found another nest underneath an ashtray inside the side panel. There were one or two very large nests just under the bed in the van. Chewed wiring behind the glove box. I haven’t been able to investigate the duct work system yet. —- This van sat for the winter, while I was dealing with an injury and couldn’t drive it until just last week, and now this beautiful customized mini home is in really bad shape. This is such a well kept, like-new vehicle, that I often use as my traveling home, and now…. I’m absolutely outraged. Is it safe enough to clean up all the potentially disease ridden mouse remnants, or should I drive this thing into the lake…?? I’m afraid to use the heater/defroster cuz of what might be inside the ducts..!! I’m afraid to let people ride in my van, and have a few friends who ARE afraid. I’m thinking I’m going to have to disinfect the shop vac after using it in there. I’ve proably breathed in so many particles already, should I keep pushing my luck and continue the immense job of pulling my dashboard and all of the intererior out..?? (I am wearing a mask). I imagine I’d probably need a new headliner, and carpet..?? what a joke… anger.
April 24th, 2006 at 9:49 pm
message to powbob.
it’s safe to clean your car. LOL. you can definately get it cleaned out. but remember to get your repair shop to lysol it down if necessary. it should work. Yes I know what it feels like with the anger. it’s horrific.
With the peppermint oil. it didn’t work only one week later i got a mouse in it. ugh. but definately less than usual.
April 26th, 2006 at 10:44 pm
I have a 2004 Honda Pilot. I have had the car in to the dealership four times for mice in the engine. They have caused over $1000.00 in damage. Now they are in the cabin of my car. I spent 6 hours cleaning/detailing the car and I found new droppings two days later. Is this the same mouse or are new ones climbing in? Where are they coming from? It seems like Honda should do something about this.
April 27th, 2006 at 8:55 am
Without a DNA test, it’s going to be pretty hard to tell for certain if it’s the old mice or new mice. I think it’s definitely possible the old mice have built a nest in the engine compartment or in the ventilation ducts and were just hiding out while you were cleaning the car.
Based on other people’s comments, it sounds like the outside air inlet on a Honda Pilot may be particularly vulnerable to rodent access. In Karen’s comment above, she wrote that she had a mechanic install a wire mesh over the entrance.
I’m not sure if this will help, but I recommend setting the climate control system on your car to use only recirculated air. While it’s healthier to bring in outside air, perhaps this might temporarily shut off access for the mice to the cabin of your Pilot.
April 28th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
Okay, so I just got a call from my service advisor at my car place. MICE have chewed my engine wires too! I didn’t know what else to do but laugh. I have a 911 so maybe they like european sportscars. Anyway, $5600 to replace the entire wire harness. Unbelievable. I googled “mice car engine” and got your post.
May 2nd, 2006 at 8:14 am
I first smelled the mouse problem soon after I bought a useed honda accord wgn. The mice left there droppings on the valve cover. They don’t seem to be getting inside the passenger compartment yet. We do keep the recirculating air on, as this keeps the stink to a minimum. I tried mothballs, Bounce dryer sheets and peppermint oil as well as traps on the valve cover. After a few weeks they seemed to have moved out so I removed the moth balls. Now the mice have upgraded to my wifes newer Toyota Camry and droppings continue to appear in both cars. There is still another car to move into as we park 3 cars side by side…outdoors. Too bad they won’t move out while parked away from home! I live in Seattle, I thought about driving somewhare like Deathvalley to cook them out. Perhaps a paint shop with an oven would offer the service?
I’m not sure what is worse the mice or the mothballs! I guess the next thing I will try is traps near whare they may be forrageing.
good luck folks!!!
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May 5th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
I believe that I have mice living in my 87′ buick regal which i keep under a tarp behind my home during the winter, and only use for a few months during the summer. i have found a nest under the wiper well and i have even heard sounds coming from under the dash when sitting in the car with the engine off, this has been happening for several years and i haven’t experienced any problems so i don’t mind the mice living there, but it does seem like an odd place for them to stay.
May 6th, 2006 at 6:45 am
I have had mice chew my wires 2 times now..luckily I have had wires I could take off of junk cars I have ..so was not out any money other than lost work from it not running right..:(
I am putting bar bait pieces on top of engine compartment and the mice eat that instead of my wires.
I get the bar bait (named One Bite)at the feed store and break it up in smaller pieces.
It is supposed to be safer if another animal ate the mice after it ate the bait.
May 7th, 2006 at 6:44 pm
I have a 2003 Honda Pilot. I have the rotten, mold/mildew smell that is worse when the car is moving. I have taken the Pilot to the Dealership repairmen who are telling me that I must have left a childs milk in the car. I have no signs of this. I know most definetly that the odor is coming from the air system. The dealer keeps telling me that there is nothing that they can do “as this is a CLOSED SYSTEM”. Obviously their closed system has a hole somewhere. Do you have any information at all that I can relay to the mechanic to get this fixed? Also, any contacts at Honda? I am not crazy, even though the fumes might be doing something as I inhale.
May 13th, 2006 at 9:58 pm
I have 99 Acura 3.2 TL and am having trouble with mice nesting on the blower motor. I removed the glove box, the two air filters and the blower motor and cleaned everything. After one day in the summer heat, it really stinks! I plan to check the air intake cavity beneath the windshield wipers. Does anyone know their prefered nesting locations and how they get in??
This is a real mess!
Steven
May 15th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
WOW…final a site with folks that can relate! In the last 8 weeks I have had my 2005 Toyota 4Runner in the shop 3 times. First time was $2,500.00 (Both cables had been chewed through) the 2nd & 3rd time was $1,200.00 each (Mice only got one cable) Toyota is telling me that it is because of the area I live in (the mountains). Imagine that … A Toyota 4Runner, 4 wheel drive, Sports Edition is not meant to be in the mountains…ya right! In speaking to an attorney it doesn’t fall under the “lemonlaw” it would have to be considered a “product liabilty” with thousands in expert witness fees… I am out of options I do know that $1,200.00 every 3 to 4 weeks is out. My car is parkes outside..so..getting rid of the mice from the entire mountain region is out..not sure what is left…If any one has any suggestions andor a why to correct the problem please respond. I need HELP HELP HELP!!!! Thanks Didi
May 15th, 2006 at 11:40 pm
Dang, I feel bad for you. I was only out $400, I thought that was alot but now I don’t feel so bad. I saw an episode on TV about this except the problem was squirrels. Mothballs and peppermint don’t work. The only thing that seemed to work was the guys dog peeing around the area where he parked. I’m guessing the squirrels were scared of the scent. They have coyote urine odor pellets someplace online. Give them a whirl. I’ve heard mixed reviews on sonic repellents. You would have to run an extention cord to your car which isn’t an option if you live in an apartment. Good luck.
May 16th, 2006 at 9:16 am
Didi,
Definitely check to see if your auto insurance will cover the cost. I have State Farm, and they covered the full cost except for the deductible under the comprehensive part of my insurance, even though the grand total for the repair was over $18,000. And no, I didn’t put a comma in the wrong place. The mice damaged nearly every hose and wire in my Audi TT’s engine compartment. Three separate State Farm adjusters reviewed the damage and the shop’s estimate, and they still agreed to cover the full cost.
May 21st, 2006 at 3:05 pm
I had a 2002 Chrysler Sebring and mice caused $250 damage. My friends’ PT Cruiser cost him $650. Both cars were in a garage.
I have tried Bounce, and never noticed another mouse in the car, or garage. Now, though, I have a nest under the hood of my truck. I guess I got lazy with replacing the old sheets of Bounce. Do try to keep the Bounce replaced with new sheets so as to keep the aroma fresh. I am also going out to get some traps(the sticky ones).
May 22nd, 2006 at 1:51 pm
So do you just lay the Bounce sheets in the engine? wouldnt they melt? how do they stay in? Or do you lay them on top of the air filter in the housing? What about for the tailpipe. Please help I cant afford to not put it in the right place. 2001 4Runner
May 22nd, 2006 at 5:05 pm
I put them on the floor beneath the car just inside of the tires where I park. I’m assuming that the mice previously got into the engine by climbing the tires or jumping up onto the wheels. I have read that they can jump 1-2 feet, though, so maybe my plan isn’t so good. I looked under my car, and this seemed like the only way they would be able to easily get in. Just for good measure, I tossed a couple sheets on the floor near the middle of the engine.
I also thought about putting snap traps along the inside of the tires after I parked. I figured I would probably forget about them, though, and periodically run over them.
May 24th, 2006 at 6:53 am
We have a 2003 Honda Pilot and this is the 4th time we have had mice. Before it cost me $75/mouse to get its “parts” cleaned out of the vents. 3 days ago, the pilot smelled so bad I couldn’t even drive it. The Honda dealership said there was a family of mice (now deceased) living in the Pilot. They now have to pull the whole heating/venting system apart. The cost is going to be hundreds of dollars. They say there is nothing they can do. Help! I love my Pilot but my husband says sell!
May 25th, 2006 at 10:56 am
I purchased a 2001 Toyota Camry in February and by late March/early April, my air/heating began making a very loud noise. The higher the setting, then the louder the noise became. Then, in late April, I noticed a smell (mildew, nasty water)kind of smell!! Guess what! A dead mouse, in the blower motor along with a nest, but the most horrific thing of all that I have been dealing with for weeks but thought I was finally getting over–there was some snake skin in the nest. Do you think maybe the mice use snake skin they find to build their nest? Probably not likely, huh. I’m surprised I have not read of any of you who have found snake skin or worse since the mice seem to be a common problem and snakes eat mice! I have not turned on my air conditioner since the nest was cleaned out, just because I wanted the smell to clear, which it has, and I was just freaked out about inhaling dead rodent. Plus, I’m so nervous driving the car that I like to be able to hear clearly, just in case.
My concern is that today, I finally turned it on and guess what?? That noise is there again. Quieter but it is there. It’s so embarrassing. I don’t want to take it back to the mechanic but I guess I will. I hadn’t tried Bounce or mothballs (cannot stand the smell of mothballs). I haven’t tried anything. I just hoped it would not happen again, but I guess I was wrong. We have a garage and are surrounded by woods. It would be good if car manufacturers would keep this issue in mind.
May 27th, 2006 at 9:42 am
I say try essential oil of peppermint. It’s worked for me on the farm. Sure your car will smell like a peppermint patty but why not try it?
nothing can really be done about the engine except for putting poison blocks in it, but that risk arises where you end up having a mouse that dies behind your dash causing a stench. Bounce didn’t work for me… pity.
good luck!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:51 pm
After reading these stories, I don’t feel so bad yet!
The mice eat thrught the plastic hood vent of my 2005 Toyota Solara. They left lots of acorns as if to build a nest.
Cost so far only $125 for an electronic mouse zapper and an inspection at the dealers.
By the way, I did catch one in the trunk with a clue trap.
June 2nd, 2006 at 7:19 pm
I have recently found a mouse problem in my 2006 Ford Expedition. I caught 4 with snap traps and I heard a noise in my SUV when I turned the air conditioner on. I took the truck in to the dealer and he told me something was stuck in the fan. When he opened it he found two mice dead inside. I have no clue on what to do on getting rid of them and besides that,I have a 3 year old. I have been keeping the truck clean but this problem has been going on for weeks now. My service tech told me that they are eating the wires under the hood, and the only reason they knew about he mouse problem (before the air conditioning incident) is because my radio was not working. I am sure that the mice ate the wiring but I don’t know what to do. I am setting snap traps every day and I am placing mothballs under the hood at night. I am going to try the peppermint oil on the cotton balls, but I don’t know what to use to clean the upholstry in the truck. Does anyone have any suggestions!! P.S. Someone once told me that the mice could get into your vehicle through packages or boxes that you have placed in your vehicle from shopping or work.
June 4th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
Hi there, I have had the old peoples urine smell for the past year and have tried air con cleaners. The problem was it wasnt when the air con was on it was when the air con was off i noticed the smell. Recently my blower was making a racket, so taking off the blower housing and accessing the air filter inside my car (Vauxhall Astra) I managed to clean out tons of chewed up bags, cigarette packets, old (chewed up) air fresheners etc which mounted to a full carrier bag full of debris when i cleaned it out.
A week later the smell got worse again and at this point I replaced the air filter, this cleared things for a week and even with the whole system open at the air filter (of the blower) and blowing out this only makes the smell slightly more bareable.
I have tried spraying nutrolizers into the air blower ducts, but this seems to make the smell worse and there is no evidence of them inside the car, however I cannot put up with the smell anymore, even my daughter doesnt want to go in the car because of the smell.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
June 8th, 2006 at 12:59 pm
I am so happy I found this site and you all know what I am going thru. It all started just last Saturday…I was on my way to the supermarket when a mouse climbed next to me on my door, trying to get out the window. After I screamed, I opened the window more and it immediately went into the vent by my windshield. I haven’t used the car since. I’m totally terrorized to use it. I called some pest control professionals and found out alot. First of all, if you have mice in your car, they have urinated all over and it’s like a magnet for other mice. Plus, it’s very dangerous to your health. Your car needs to be cleaned out with a good cleaner with bleach strength. To get rid of mice, I was told spring traps are the best. Well, tonight we are going to put a string trap in the car with the windows closed and see what happens. The guy said it is likely that I have a nest, too. My car seems to running ok (cross my fingers), but my check engine light has been on for several months. I’ve taken it to the garage and they have never found mice in it. Maybe this time they will. This could also be a fluke that one mouse got into the garage and into my car on Friday night. They drivers window was all the way open. This is what I am hoping for. I’ll keep you posted.
June 8th, 2006 at 2:07 pm
I strongly bleached the air inlet, the blower and the pipes as far as the pollen filter last night, it smelt much better this morning but still not completley gone. if i have the air con on or air blower to recirculate then it smells better, if its taking air from the outside its still there however ive cleaned it with a 25% (1 bleach 3 water) solution and cannot understand why im still smelling it when its not on recirculate or air con on.
June 8th, 2006 at 9:56 pm
I have had good luck keeping mice out of the engine compartment by just leaving the hood up at night- this has stopped damage on my 64 volvo and 91 isuzu. I never had them inside the car, but now I have a 06 toyota corolla ( yes, my first new car!!!) and the mice have gotten inside. I have tried almost everything- bounce, peppermint oil, live traps, cursing, vents on recirculate, steel wool in gaps. I have killer cats. The car dealer evidently thinks this is funny / common which it is neither. Poisoning or trapping is only temporary-I need to figure out how they are getting in!!!!
June 9th, 2006 at 12:28 am
Hey NANCY.
nope no way for u to actually find out where they’re coming from. Lets remember folks the damn mice can squish themselves to a very thin diameter. SoOOO I suppose you’ll hafta keep trying all that stuf out. just remember to watch out for smells from vents. And I like the sticky traps when i drive. to be safe. I prefer not to hear the snap of a trap when i drive.
June 9th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
i was given some liquid capsules today that you stick in vaccum cleaners to stop thoses vaccie smells that they often give off and poured them into the air vents and has actually got ridof the smell and has a new (nice) smell.
June 13th, 2006 at 9:39 am
I just found droppings in my car this morning and I am sick to my stomach and my husband is livid. (My best guess is that they followed me from the school that I work at.) I will try the bounce, mothballs and peppermint oil today. Thank you all for your suggestions.
June 13th, 2006 at 11:38 am
I am completely freaked out that rodents are living in my 2002 Camry. (I park my car in the garage.)It looks like they are living behind the glove box. No sign of them in the car YET. I will try all of the suggestions mentioned on this site and get back to you all. Does anyone know if the ultrasonic rodent repellents work? They sound too good to be true.
June 13th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
Just discovered from Honda Dealer that “Rodents” have built a nest in my 05 Honda Pilot…$600 (+) to replace the Wiring Harness, Knock Sensor, leading to Malfunction Engine Light and VTM-4 light. If these problems are indeed real, they are a HONDA Manufacturer PROBLEM. Honda has not been responsive to any previous issues I’ve brought to their attention. This seems to be a warranty issue in which HONDA should pay.
June 23rd, 2006 at 11:08 am
Yes, I have another Honda 2004 that I just took for noise in the vents, only to be called and told it was a rodent. I was also having issues with the 4wd mechanism, but it was intermittent, and they never found out for sure what it was. Now I may know!!!!! This sounds like a major manufacturing defect that needs to be addressed. All Honda owners please contact jcchatcher@hotmail.com.
June 30th, 2006 at 8:34 am
We just moved to NC 6 weeks ago and now I have mice in my jeep cherokee that does sit outside. I went to the dealership to ask if they might have heard of anyone else having this problem and of course they never have. I have caught two so far and my husband is tearing apart the whole jeep this weekend to see where they might be coming from. I don’t have any smelly problems though and no wires have been chewed-thank goodness- only a half eaten hickory nut on the battery. Wish us luck.
July 2nd, 2006 at 8:46 am
Where outside air comes in for the cabin at the base if the windshield, rain can also get in. To allow this water to drain, there are two 1â?? holes on either side of this â??chamberâ?? with a simple (worthless) rubber flap covering. This gives mice direct access to the interior of the car through the AC ductwork and they invariably make nests in there. Had a 2002 Acura TL and 1998 Accord both with this problem, but I would guess this would be common for all Hondas and many other vehicles. Having these access points covered 3/8â??wire mesh should stop this point on entry, but there may be others. For storing a vehicle, the only true protection would be something like â??Car Capsuleâ?? http://www.car-capsule.net
July 10th, 2006 at 11:17 pm
Cannot speak for other models, but Toyota Camry and Lexus have an easy fix to keep mice out of the cabin air filter. This task requires less than thirty minutes and limited mechanical ability.
Remove the windshield wiper arms. Underneath the windshield is a plastic fresh air cowling which is held in place with two pin plugs–One on each side of the cowling. Press gently on the center of the plug and the plug releases. Too much force and you buy new plugs. The cowling then unhooks from plastic stays and slides forward. This exposes the wiper mechanism and on the passenger side you will find a raised vent which is approximately six inches by 10.5 inches. If you look down this vent you will see the cabin filter or a door if the air conditioning system is in the re-circulate mode. To the left of this vent is a large opening into the fender which will allow fairly large rodents to enter from the ground. There is no easy way to screen these holes on both sides of the cowling as they are water drains. The mice are coming up the inside of the fender and entering the vehicle through the raised vent. Remove the cabin air filter and vaccum the area around the fan, if needed. Take stainless steel screen and make a cap for the vent. The screen must allow for ample passage of air. I used plumbers putty to hold the screen in place and to prevent any rattling. Presto-No more rodents in the cabin air filter. If you get stuck or need more information, contact me at drjshaw@msn.com
July 12th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
2003 Honda Accord, $395 repair, rodents chewed knock senor wire. After researching I found Honda even has a
Service Bulletin on this problem #06012004 and so does the NHTSA # 10014213. I have a call out for service manager from my local Honda to get a copy of what this service bulletin says. Makes you wonder why 90% of these posts are about Honda. I will update when I get some feedback.
July 18th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
I have a Jeep Cherokee, just picked it up from the mechanics, wires chewed, nest in the heater duct? He cleaned it out and replaced the wires, this is the first time I have ever heard of this, and then I find this site, Is there no way to deter these critters..I have no odor yet, just a loud noise from the blower.. I am opting for the snap traps, I don’t want them to come back. The rainy season is over and I was so glad to hear about the Insurance Co. paying and I will try the bounce, Not glad anyone else has this problem but I am glad to hear I am not the only one.. Thanks for all the comments, help and suggestions..
July 19th, 2006 at 6:39 am
Just had our 3rd repair of mice damage in our 2003 Acura MDX. We just moved to the country and don’t have a garage. First repair involved chewed wires causing the engine light to go on. Last 2 were the air conditioning blower getting louder 2 times in 2 weeks. Acura kindly removed this last nest for free after we complained about the fact that this doesn’t happen in our other cars/trucks. The person in Service made a copy of the structures behind the glove box under the hood where the nests were so my husband could devise some type of screening. He said it would be quite expensive for them to install the screens. I love my Acura but I doubt I would buy another knowing this problem exists. We are very grateful to you all for sharing your experiences. As mentioned above, some action needs to be taken with the manufacturers of Honda/Acura to resolve this problem. Until the screens go in we will try the mothballs and dryer sheets. Thank you!
July 20th, 2006 at 7:17 pm
I can’t believe how many people this happens to, I HATE RODENTS!!!
I have a 2005 Mustang and had 4 wires connecting to the transmission completely chewed through.. $600. The check engine lights been on 3 times since then, just got the connector fixed and somehow Ford altered it so it was covered under warranty. So lucky. This is sooo frustrating and I never know when the lights going to come on again. I dont know what to do, theyre really making me mad!!! Has anyone had luck with snap traps/sticky traps under the hood? Im going to try that and put repellent all around and mothballs, Ill try anything. Were in San Diego. What is it about our wires that are so attractive? Go away!!! Could it possibly be squirrels or rats? All of the posts seem to be about mice. Thanks.. good luck to everyone
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:08 am
I’ve had continual problems with rdoents with various cars including Hondas, Kia, and a Ford Probe.
Just returned from an extended vacation and found my Pilot didn’t want to run and had to have it towed. A big nest was on the engine and a large mousew or rat actually jumpoed out when the car was being towed away. It’s still in the shop after a week. They founfd a large nest in the air ducts and have replaced two harnesses so far. Also my 94 civic had every piece of winshield washer tubing eaten off and laid on top of the engine. I constantly have to shove a vacuum leaner hose into the heating cooling vents to clean it out. I’m trying glue traps in the cars, getting cats, also will try moth balls , bounce peppermint etc. This problem has been going on for years and is annoying. If anyone has any additional ideas on deterrent, let me know.
July 23rd, 2006 at 5:17 am
Anyone else had experience with the electic rodent ‘ultrasonic’, or similar, devices?
I’ve heard they do not work - but I’m interested to hear from those that have actually tried them…
July 24th, 2006 at 11:47 am
yep another Honda Pilot here! I just had my 2004 repaired for $600.00. apparently the mice chewed throuh a gas line. I just gave the car a good vacuuming as I have 3 kids and there are definitely crumbs around. yuck. I feel like I am going to barf! I am going to park outside, not in the garage for awhile.
help. I don’t know what else to do.
July 24th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
I thought we were the only ones with this problem. We have a 2005 Honda Pilot and this is the second “mouse” problem we have had in several months. The mouse or mice have nested in our car using the insulation between the panels and the metal. The first one, my husband found after tearing apart the back of the car. This new one he has yet to find. So…we are driving the car around in 100+ degree weather waiting for the smell to go away. I was surprised to see so many Pilots with this problem. Is there anything we can do to solve this? Help!!!
July 27th, 2006 at 7:53 am
Update #76 ,Service manager and owner of my local Honda where I have purchased 2 Hondas and 2 service contracts in 3 yeas say, this is just an act of nature,it happens. I have informed them about this site and the fact that 90% of people posting own Hondas. I am sure other car owners use the internet if they had this problem. I told owner I felt it was necessary to proceed with this to Honda Corporate, because what ever coating Honda is using to protect wiring is appealing to rodents and should be changed. I encourage everyone to call Honda 800 999-1009 or Accura 800-382-2238 so they know it is not isolated incidents as each dealer thinks.
Address for both is:
American Motor Corp.
1919 Torrence Blvd.
Torrence CA. 90501-2746
July 27th, 2006 at 9:23 pm
I live in rural mountain foothill northern California. I have had rodent problems, mostly in the engine area, in a 04 Hyundai Santa Fe, 05 Ford Ranger, and lately in my brand new Nissan Titan truck. I have tried the sonic repellers and found they work to some extent, but not well as claimed. The best thing I have tried is the Bounce sheets. Use the scented ones. It’s the smell that keeps rodents away! I use several (like 12) under my hood in various places where mouse dropping have been seen it the past. If you need to get one of these sheets down into a hard (or impossible) to reach area, Get some stiff insulated electrical wire like gauge 14 solid, from your local hardware store. Cut it into one to 3 foot lenghts as needed. Coil one end of a wire around a rolled up bounce sheet and then use this long wire to place it in the needed area. Leave the free end of the wire where you can reach it later to remove it. Maybe make a hook in the free end and loop around some engine part to hold it in position. Here is another thing… the bounce sheets loose their strong odor in a few days so they will need to be replaced. (They still can be used in your laundry if they didn’t get dirty). I replace every 3 or four days. How long could I wait? Don’t know yet. This method has kept my truck mouse free (as best as I can tell) for the past 3 months. Of course this is a hassle to deal with and you have to remove all the bounce sheets and any wires that you have used, Every Time you Drive! This may not be for everyone. But if you are in a heavy mouse area like I am and if you let your vehicle sit for a few days at a time, its better than having mice destroy your ride. I hope this helps someone.
July 29th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
Sorry to pass on this information, but I did some googling and learned that the Idaho Supreme Court apparently overturned a lower court verdict against American Honda regarding mouse infestation of a Honda. One justice apparently said, “The implied warranty cannot be read to require the distribution of a mouse-proof vehicle.” See this AP newspaper article from Boise that appeared in the Seattle paper:
(Sorry! Please don’t kill the messenger!)
July 29th, 2006 at 6:54 pm
I googled the article you were referring to, website:
seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/145074_mice23.html
Thank you it was very informative.
I don’t believe what is happening now is the same situation as the van 10 years ago in a rural area. Now Honda wiring is being eaten in the suburbs. It seems the mice are fond of the covering of the Knock Sensor Wire. I have heard, but have no proof that this wire is not covered in regular rubber or silicone, but rather a soy based composite covering. Doesn’t it seem odd that the majority of cars talked about on this site are Hondas.In addition there must have been something to warrant Honda putting out a Technical Service Bulletin to instruct their service department about it. They should own up to the fact that there is a problem and should cover it under warranty and find a way to correct it. The more people that let Honda know there is a problem the better.
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:35 am
We just got a 1976 Lincoln Contenintal hand me own 16,000 miles ,that looks like new, but mice did get inside and it only has 3 little holes in the whole car but let me tell you it does stink, there has to be dead mice in there, this is a big car, we took the mats out on a 95 degree day and washed them with laundry detergent and let them dry and they still smell like a big dead stuart little! You can not get rid of this smell which means sell sell sell!
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:04 pm
This just happened to my Explorer! I brought my car in today to diagnose why the check-engine light came on. It turned out to be an O2 sensor which I authorized them to replace. I couldn’t believe my ears when the mechanic called later with a progress report and said that my car had a rodent problem. When they went to pull out the bad sensor, they realized that mice had chewed through the wiring to the sensor! The nerve of those little hooligans vandalizing my property!
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:40 pm
I live in an unincorporated area near a forest preserve in the far northwest Chicago suburbs. I have lived there for four years and never realized that these mousey shenanigans were going on. I wonder if our recent deadly heatwave and intensely heavy storms have driven these mice to such destructive behavior (kind of like humans looting after a disaster). I am terrified to think about possible damage to my other vehicle, a 2003 Cadillac which I recently inherited. Will the mice turn it into luxury condos? I keep the Caddy in the garage and leave the Explorer (i.e., the giant chew toy for mice) in the driveway. Based on what you all have written, it doesn’t seem to matter whether if the vehicle is outside or inside. By the way, mice will eat bags of grass seed too (a $15 bag in my garage was destroyed over the winter by you know who - I hope they got bloated from all that fiber).
I told my mom about the mice munching on my car engine and she has been in stitches laughing ever since (I must have gone over big - she should catch my next act at the funny farm where it sounds I will be headed based on the plight reported by of all you). I got the last laugh when she called to tell me her electricity just went out and I told her the house wiring was probably sabotaged by a pack of disorderly mice. I was too shy to call Allstate with a damage claim because I’m sure they would be rolling in the aisles over this too. Fortunately the damage so far didn’t exceed my deductible so it isn’t worth claiming…yet.
The more I read of everyone’s experiences on this site, the more this feels like a victims’ support group! I feel your pain, I really do! I am amazed at how the Hondas seem to be preferred by the mice. I must be one of the token Ford owners misfortunate enough to be a chosen one. The soy-based plastic theory sounds reasonable to me although I read that mice will chew on anything to wear down their teeth and not as much for their dining pleasure.
This situation also presents an ethical dilemma for me. I am a huge animal lover and PETA member so I cannot bring myself to sentence these mice to death. But after reading about the potential financial damage and inconvenience they can cause, I can’t afford not to take preventative action. Do they make humane traps for mice like they do for other wildlife? Out of curiosity, do the mice find one fabric softener fragrance or brand more offensive to them than others? Should I try April fresh, morning breeze, or some other scent?
I hope you don’t think I am making light of this rodent problem as today I found out I am a victim like the rest of you. Some things in life are so off-the-wall weird and frustrating that our only defense is to find the humor in them. Good luck to you all.
August 6th, 2006 at 7:16 pm
Wow I’m really shocked to see how common this is. I just recently repaired the cam position sensor harness on my 2004 Honda Pilot because of rodent damage. After clearing that problem up they chewed through the knock sensor harness. I’m trying to find out where it is located so I can fix that next. Because the dealer says ” Sorry that is considered failure do to and outside influence.” Good luck to all having the attack of the rodent problems.
August 6th, 2006 at 9:29 pm
This just happened to my Chevy Trailblazer. I found mouse droppings in the back and some half chewed Werther’s toffees under the rear seat. I have looked everywhere and there is this smell from somewhere under the rear passenger seat that smells like a dead body! This SUV has 4000 miles and up until last week still had the new car smell…..not anymore. The bounce sheets have kept them out and one day as I pulled my Saturn SC2 out of the garage, it looked like something out of a Disney movie. Two mice were holding on to the spoiler and flapping in the breeze as I drove down the alley. That was funny but finding droppings in my new SUV was not amusing and neither is the smell. I’m going to have to have some pull the seats out and do something because I don’t even want to drive my new SUV.
August 11th, 2006 at 9:18 am
I’ve had similar problems here in Colorado. My old Jeep was sitting for a few months and ended up with a family sized pack rat nest in the air filter. Well, at this point there is finally a solution: A local company makes a device which used high frequency random sound emissions which keep mice and rats out of your engine compartment. The device attaches to your car’s battery and uses very little power. cool stuff, check out the Rodent Deterrent System
cheers! and good luck!
August 13th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
For a solution to the mice in your car, put up a small mouse corral. A bit of a hassle, but it saves a lot of time and money. For photos and discussion,
see: http://www.hastingsreserve.org/Mammals/MiceInCars.html
We have tried the ultrasonice devices, mothballs, etc. to no effect. The fence works. If you are lucky enough to have a garage, make it mouse-proof by closing all crack you can get your liitle finger through. I lot of foam+screen, new wood trim, tighter door frames, door sweeps, an a few good traps. A good garage can be relatively mouse-proof, but they will continue to gnaw away and make new holes. We have found that older Volvos (240s) never have mice inside. Curious. Maybe folks in Sweden commonly park cars outdoors?
-Mark
August 13th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
i hate to jinx myself , but i think they are gone…i’m not sure what worked, but i tried about everything. no luck with live traps ( peanut butter, feta) and can not stand the idea of sticky traps ( should be outlawed!!) i actually caught one by the tail (yes with my hands, but she was slowed down by the “kids”) and scared one by chasing him through the trunk while i was tearing it apart and he left. i hosed out the engine conpartment with dr. bronner’s peppermint soap and keep peppermint oil in the trunk and glove box ( tried bounce, but it is disgusting- people actually use this on their clothes??????) the air is on recycle (still afraid to turn on the heat) most important, i leave the hood up on all my vehicles when they are parked. i can see where they could get in my 122 volvo, but don’t. my cats could tell you there is no shortage of rodents around here so hopefully something ( or the combination) is working. Could it be they liked the new car smell??( 06 corolla)
August 16th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
A humane, homemade live mousetrap recommended by PETA can be cheaply and easily constructed using a smooth-walled plastic or metal wastebasket. You place bait such as peanut butter on a cracker in the wastebasket. Outside of the basket, stack some smaller objects to create a “staircase” or ramp up to the rim of the basket. Theoretically the mouse will climb up and fall into the wastebasket to get the food but won’t be able to climb back out due to the smooth walls. PETA recommends checking at least once a day for captured mice and releasing “the prisoners” at least 100 feet from your home in a natural environment. I haven’t tried it yet but I did find a plastic wastebasket for $1 at Target.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
We have (a) packrats instead of mice, and (b) a Nissan Quest instead of a Honda, but they still ate through the knock sensor wire. Apparently this happens quite a bit when the weather gets wetter here in the summer, and we’ve had a lot of rain in the past month.
August 17th, 2006 at 9:41 am
After reading all the comments on this website, please let us put our 2 cents worth in…well, really, it’s going to be $70.00 worth for the removal of a dead mouse and nest from our 2004 Honda Pilot. We took it in this morning because of a “clicking” noise coming from the passenger side a/c vent and a foul smell. We pretty well knew what it was going to be as we had the same thing happen before. We think the Service Manager knew too from the look on his face. The first time we had no charge. And after reading other comments about the expense, we consider ourselves lucky it’s only going to be $70.00. Last week we trapped (old fashioned spring type trap) 2 adult mice in the floor board (one on the front passenger side - one on the rear passenger side), then we began to smell the “smell” the next day. Apparently it’s coming from the nest. I have sprayed Oust spray in the interior of the car and it helps. It’s cool enough here in the mountains of NC to drive with the windows down so the “clicking” is only heard when the a/c is on and the smell is lessened when the a/c is off, too. It was interesting to see just how many people are having the same problem with the Honda line of vehicles, and especially interesting about the soy-based coating on some of the wiring. We may be driving something else in the future. I HATE MICE…
August 17th, 2006 at 3:03 pm
We leave the recirc. on both vehicles (1995 Infiniti G20 and 1998 Nissan Frontier) so we never got mice in the car but I’ve removed the fan blower/motor assemblies so many times the screws are wearing out. Sometimes there are sliced-up mice in the blower and usually there’s only nesting material. The nesting material causes a stink and a clunking noise and greatly decreases the amount of air the blower moves.
One piece of important advice - NEVER use poison ANYWHERE for rodents. No matter how bad you think mice are, a dead mouse decaying in an unreachable place is far worse. It’s also causes mice unnecessary suffering when they die. Mice can’t help being mice and looking for a cozy place to nest. A snap trap is usually painless.
Next thing I’m going to try - pour a whole box of moth balls where each tire sits and then park on top of the pile. Mice get up into cars starting at the tires. If this keeps them off the tires, it might work.
If that doesn’t work, get a backhoe and build a deep mote around your garage or parking space. Fill the mote with water or maybe red fox urine.
Failing that, get a crane with a strong magnet attached to the end of the cable and lift your car one foot off the ground when it’s parked. Be careful not to scratch the paint on the roof. Then find a way to keep the mice from climbing the crane boom and scaling down the cable.
If all else fails, ask the auto manufacturer why they can’t put a simple screen over the drainways where the mice crawl up. How hard would that be?
August 17th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
I couldn’t resist posting comment number 100. Thanks to everyone who has posted their stories, tips, and tricks on my website. You’ve helped a lot of people, including me. I now realize I got off pretty easy, other than not having a car for nearly 10 weeks.
Just to throw in my geographical reference, I’m in Oakland, California. We get almost no rain here (maybe 0.25 inches) between May and October, but we make up for it in the winter. Heavy rains cause underground mice and rat tunnels to collapse, so be especially vigilant after a couple days of heavy rains.
Lee, your post was awesome. I’m thinking of attaching a winch to the ceiling of my garage. If I can make enough space along the walls, I might even be able to rotate the car in the air so I will never have to blindly back out of the garage again. I don’t think mice can climb walls. Just in case, though, I might wallpaper the garage with Bounce. That’s not excessive, is it?
August 20th, 2006 at 7:27 pm
Funny you should say that, Robert. I was just thinking of attaching a wench to the ceiling of my garage. She could watch for mice and moniter the lubrication schedule. Seriously, though, since Honda owners seem to have more problems than anyone, I contacted Honda and they said that everyone with mice problems should buy their new hybrid - instead of keeping the mice out, the engineers added peanut butter to the fan cage so the mice keep running after the food which spins the cage which generates electricity which runs the car. If you can attract enough mice to your garage or parking space you can get 57.6 MPG in city driving.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:55 am
I have a 05 Honda pilot, and I have caught 7 mice already in 4 months, the car smells aweful. I am getting to believe Honda Pilots definitely has an issue, which Honda needs to address and pay for damages. I am not sure where the mice is entering from, I have kept 6 Glue traps, 4 bait traps. Any other way to save my seats and engine will help!
Help!!!
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:13 am
After, getting completely sick to my stomach. I am able to ask for help with my situation. I recently brought my new Volvo C90 in because there was what I thought was a leak by the back window at the hatch. When I brought it in to the service department, they didn’t know what it was so they took down the ceiling panel and it was loaded with fesces and insulation. They then pulled out the side panels and sure enough there was something eating its way through the sides of my car. Not sure what it is, but the gunk they now think was the remnants of the critter (we recently had a heat wave and they think it cooked it, lovely). Has anyone out there had an animal or critter living in the body of their vehicle. I don’t live on a farm and I drive the car just about everyday. Help, my car is only 5 months old and I don’t want it back until someone can tell me how it got in and ensure me it won’t happen again. Looking forward to hearing from you…..Lisa
August 24th, 2006 at 6:32 pm
Wow!!! I have read w/ interest and sadness the stories about mice in the vehicles. I have a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee and they are building nests in my air ducts. When I turn on the a/c and the blower motor starts, it sounds off balance and loud. I have taken out the blower motor 3X this week to clean it and the dealership did it once. This is a real challenge. We have tried snap traps, glue traps and now are resorting to bait. The moth balls did not deter anything for us. Good luck, Paul
August 26th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
I was having a nesting pack rat get in my engine compartment and tried to discourage him for weeks with all the recommended methods from this website and others, with no luck at all.
I purchased a Rodent Deterrent System from http://www.rodentdeterrentsystem.com 2 weeks ago and so far so good. Ihave had a few visits, there was evidence that the pack rat was in the hood area, but he didn’t stick around long enough to re-build his nest, and in the last few days I have not noticed any evidence of his returning.
August 30th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
I also just found this while googling “mice car engine”, hoping to find something that worked better (and smelled better!) than the bag of mothballs we’re currently hanging in the engine compartment of our 92 VW Passat. Yes, mice really love THOSE wires too! (Soy-based cable covering - somebody sure had a bright idea there…)
We’ve also had some hefty repair bills thanks to mice. Our car is parked in an open carport and we live in a rural area, 2nd growth forest, southwest BC. Lots of critters about.
We’ve tried the following which DIDN’T work for us: Irish Spring soap (bars in the engine compartment), Bounce sheets, and an ultrasonic mouse zapper.
We’ve had some success with snap traps baited with peanut butter, placed under the hood below the windshield. Need to remember to check them often - decomposing mice smell truly awful. The little plastic traps did a better job for us than the wooden ones, and aren’t so hard on the fingers! At present, mothballs seem to be working, but I can hardly stand the smell. And since we have dogs, but no cats, nightly visits from the neighbour’s cat are much appreciated. We know she spends time around and on the car by the pawprints she leaves behind…
Appreciate the tip about peppermint oil - it will for sure smell better than those mothballs! Amazed to learn that so many others are struggling with this pesky problem - this thread is almost like a “mice-ate-my-car” support group! Hope everyone finds something that works for them. Thanks to Lee for the great posts - laughter is good!
August 30th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
Our Honda Pilot has had several mice die in the heating/AC vents. I have contacted my dealer and they have no record of a service bulletin having to do with this issue. I then contacted the Honda 800 number and they also have never heard of mice getting into Hondas. I was told that there is no record of anyone calling them with this problem. I was also told I could not speak to a supervisor about this “mouse” problem. I find it very hard to believe that Honda is not aware of this issue and that no one else have contacted them about it. If anyone has contacted Honda with any success please post an answer. I am at my wits end.